Big Bang or God?

Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by lopsk8er, Nov 12, 2006.

?

Do you beleive in the Big Bang or God?

  1. Big Bang

    59 vote(s)
    100.0%
  2. God

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. inqwire

    inqwire Level IV

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2006
    Messages:
    897
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    iWood
    the bible is not completely fact

    the ages and shapes of bones found support the theory of evolution, while the bible says god created humans in the beginning

    i believe a higher power had involvement in earth, but i believe in the big bang

    it is just too mysterious to come up with an answer
     
  2. goldrush

    goldrush Level II

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2006
    Messages:
    345
    Likes Received:
    0
    is it not possible the bible is completely fact we just are not percieving what is said right. I believe in creation but I think God used the big bang to carry it out. Micro evolution is a proven fact but I ahve yet to see anything that would convince me that macro evolution has ever taken place. There are many things which wouldn't work with just evolution, the eye, a mostly hairless body, sex and so on
     
  3. Zapno

    Zapno Level II

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2006
    Messages:
    329
    Likes Received:
    0
    Don't they take oxygen from the water via their guills?
     
  4. bititid0

    bititid0 Level III

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2006
    Messages:
    434
    Likes Received:
    0
    there can be God and the big bang. they do not contradict. it says that God created the world in 7 days. it could have meant he created the dust to cause the big bang. people read the Bible way too literally.
     
  5. goldrush

    goldrush Level II

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2006
    Messages:
    345
    Likes Received:
    0
    Bit I agree, if you read how the Bible is written in Genesis it says:

    Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the Earth, and the Earth was with out form and void.

    Gen. 1:5b And the evening and the morning were the first day.

    It doesn't mention the creating the heavens and the earth in vs 5, only the fact that light and darkness were seperated. It sounds like there is an undetermined amount of time here.
     
  6. yeng

    yeng Level III

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2006
    Messages:
    485
    Likes Received:
    1
    how do you say that bible is not completely fact?
     
  7. mrpoot

    mrpoot Newbie

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2006
    Messages:
    14
    Likes Received:
    0
    big bang
     
  8. goldrush

    goldrush Level II

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2006
    Messages:
    345
    Likes Received:
    0
    In the Bible the best I've seen is things not yet proven, there are myriads of things which have been documented as fact
     
  9. Occupied

    Occupied Level II

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2006
    Messages:
    173
    Likes Received:
    0
    god is a theory. most science is theory. there is no point in "debating" this because no one is going to change their minds over a forum, let alone a neopet forum. Then why do we do it? It is such a strange phenomenan that we feel compelled to make others believe what we do and even though we know that nothing is going to change the other's mind we continue. Ah the wonderful generation of internet geeks... its extraordinary.

    Neat article:
    http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/s ... enDocument
     
  10. goldrush

    goldrush Level II

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2006
    Messages:
    345
    Likes Received:
    0
    I believe that science has done a good job at proving many facts, so has the Bible. This is a debate forum, or a place where you make your arguments as much to show where you stand as cnvince others.
     
  11. yeng

    yeng Level III

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2006
    Messages:
    485
    Likes Received:
    1
    yeah science contradicts the bible.

    its like do you believe that you came from a monkey? :D
     
  12. Zapno

    Zapno Level II

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2006
    Messages:
    329
    Likes Received:
    0
    Human actions are not all that difficult to understand. We do everything, because of out instinctive desires to have sex, and out instinctive fear of death. These are only instincts, so although we are always thinking of them, and they are the basis of our thoughts they can be misinterpreted by the brain. These different interpretations creates smaller fears which build upon eachother creating a complex we know as our personality. Even the smallest actions have a reason. For instance debating on an internet forum is the reaction of trying to prove yourself to others. Even if you do this annonymously you are still trying to prove your mental self or your state of mind, and opinions. The desire to prove yourself to others derives from the instinctive desire to have sex. We have these desires, and fears most likely just to keep our species alive. Whether it may have came from evolution, or intelligent design it was probably not random that we developed the need to live, and keep ourselves alive. So, in short we do everything for basic reasons which are read differently by each of our own minds.
     
  13. goldrush

    goldrush Level II

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2006
    Messages:
    345
    Likes Received:
    0
    Not sure where you're going with this but it's nice to see someone else start being long winded. :wink:
     
  14. bititid0

    bititid0 Level III

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2006
    Messages:
    434
    Likes Received:
    0
    the bible does not contradict evolution.
     
  15. goldrush

    goldrush Level II

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2006
    Messages:
    345
    Likes Received:
    0
    yes, but evolution or creation isn't what the Bible is about
     
  16. baldudexx

    baldudexx Level III

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2006
    Messages:
    386
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    In your house
    the bible was made of gospels from 4 humans and a whole lot more...

    Science is based on theories from lots of humans...

    SO, wouldn't science be more reliable, and yet loads more people believe in God.
     
  17. rpmonkey80

    rpmonkey80 Newbie

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2006
    Messages:
    15
    Likes Received:
    0
    I DEFINITLY don't believe in God (absolutely no proof - How do we know the Bible was written by god? Where was god when the holocaust happened? When the african americans were taken as slaves? When Bush became president?), however, the big bang doesn't HAVE to be 100% right. I completely believe in some sort of variation of the Big bang though - eventual evolution, just like what is going on now.
     
  18. manic_one

    manic_one Level I

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2006
    Messages:
    43
    Likes Received:
    0
    Yes, they do. All animals (well ones on Earth, anyway) need oxygen to survive.
     
  19. heavensgates

    heavensgates Level I

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2006
    Messages:
    96
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Iraq
    Deffiantly God. And science has even proven several times that GOD DOES EXSIST. And also proves the bible is really real. Here we go.

    For just a starter, some need to look into the National Geographic film on where the Garden of Eden is, (Near southern iraq at the end of tigris and Euphrates) Also, Its been proven several times by several coltures that the Great Flood by Noah actually did exsist. But Noah wasn't the only person. The Japanese and other coulters have a similar story to go along with it. Making since of why all the animals in the world were collected. I'll continue on later brb.
     
  20. Wonderwall

    Wonderwall Level I

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2006
    Messages:
    84
    Likes Received:
    0
    this is false. there are some life forms at the bottom of the ocean that do not rely on oxygen from the water-- which at that depth is non-existent, anyway. they rely on the heat and nutrients from underwater sea vents to thrive and they don't need oxygen. =)
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.