I can't explain it as well as it is explained on this website. http://www.virusmyth.com basically, what they're saying is that HIV and AIDS(or maybe just one. I think both) is a myth. I didn't read a whole lot on there, but it was somewhat convincing and wondered what you all though.
If you believe this, all I have to do if ask you, why then are MILLIONS of Africans dieing from it then? I quote them Millions of Africans ARE NOT getting these antiviral drugs that are given to current HIV sufferers, thus then, why are the Africans who DO NOT get the drug dieing? Sort of self defeating don't you think? Given the literally BILLIONS of dollars that HIV/AIDS drains the economy globally, there is no way in hell that this is a mass conspiracy which has been Orchestrated by the Government or Pharmaceutical companies. Whilst the treatments are potential gold mines for Pharmaceutical companies, the simple ethical and moral implications of killing hundreds of thousands of people with their antiviral drugs simply would have to mean that the entire board of directors of hundreds of these companies have NO conscience. It's not possible that thousands of people are signing the death warrants on HUNDREDS of thousands of people to make money. No, a treatment for Diabetes or a 1 shot cure for an addiction is a much larger money market which Pharmaceutical companies are exploring, no matter how sick and twisted the world is right now, there is no way AIDS is a hoax. I'm sure that there are thousands of people in the past 30 years who have contracted the virus and instead of taking antiviral medication have sought natropathic solutions such as teas, herbs and aromas etc. I'll wager any money they wound up dead, just having died a lot faster then those taking the medications.
I think that website is potentially dangerous. People can misinterpret it, thinking that one and/or the other doesn't exist, and therefore may jump to the conclusion that it's okay to have unprotected sex with a person who is infected. HIV does exist, without a doubt. But their main stance was that it wasn't highly correlated to AIDS, not that it didn't exist. So they're saying, HIV does not equal AIDS. Well...if they were saying that, I would say that was okay. But they're saying that AIDS doesn't exist. A bit of a far stretch. Perhaps you should try reading this, as a counter to that previously mentioned website: http://www.niaid.nih.gov/Factsheets/evidhiv.htm
Your right, that is off topic, use PM. @ Commy, it isn't dangerous IMO due to the fact its not main stream enough, no one reading it is going to think, Well, I can have sex now without protection because I read something on the internet. I've actually wondered before where and when HIV turns into AIDS, I think its hard to say whether HIV=AIDS when its hard to conclude which is which in the first place, and at what point one is the other, if you know what I mean.
It's not just a single website, it's a group of people including scientists who produce such a website. And some scientists (who aren't specialized in microbiology or immunology) are endorsing it. And if people read "Ooo, a scientist with a Ph.D says so, it just might be true." If we read the first poster's thoughts, he inferred that it was somewhat convincing that HIV and/or AIDS do not exist. Other people have been convinced, and that can lead to dire consequences. If you don't think it's mainstream enough, the South African President, Mbeki, said he didn't believe in the connection. And it has made an impact. Mbeki is a leader. A man who has a lot of influence. His lack of response and inactivity to the epidemic is what has been blamed for South Africa's high rates for HIV and AIDS, one of the highest in the world. HIV is the precursor to AIDS. It infects cells used in the human immune system such as cells derived from white blood cells, and uses the mechanisms to replicate. AIDS comes when such cells fall below a certain level, and immunity is lost. And once you have HIV, you have it for the rest of your life.
-___________- that is ridiculous. i doubt it would be as widespread as it is if it was a huge conspiracy.
I know pretty much knew what you were saying, What I'm saying is WHAT IS that certain level. At what point is your THC count so low that your classified as having no immune system and thus have AIDS?
From the top of my head, I couldn't give you the exact level of helper T cell count when you have AIDS, but from this site they've said it's when your Th cells fall below 200 cells per mL of blood, when an uninfected person would have 600-1000 cells per mL, leaving a lot more lonely B cells. But it's pretty much when you come to the stage of when you can get infected or fall ill from an antigen or microorganism that a person with a functioning immune system wouldn't fall ill to.
Never thought of HIV/AIDS from this perspective. Nice Debate Topic. Somewhat, I tend to counter all the things said here and say it might make some sense. And if it's true then I ask you a simple question : Spoiler Why Humans didn't get sick by this disease over 2000 years ago?
Although there are several theories about its origin, the general theory is that we caught it from chimpanzees. Viruses can cross through species, and factors such as HIV's high mutation rate allow this to happen. A reason could be that the SIV (chimp form of HIV) wasn't at the stage that inter-species infection could occur. It's a similar case with the bird flu virus, which mutates at a high rate. So there's a lot of worry going on about how easily it could be for a certain strain of the avian flu virus to mutate into a something that can cause a pandemic across the world. Some strains have already killed several hundred people.
Plus another reason could be, 10,000 or even 2,000 years ago we were not capable of travelling to the extent we are today. 2,000 years ago if you lived in Village X in Province Y in Country A on Continent B, thats where you were born and thats where you died. It's possible that those humans who lived in Africa and evolved around the chimpanzees built up a natural resistance to it, or simply never contracted the disease as they did not interact with chimpanzees as we do today. Thus, even IF a small amount of people DID contract it back then, then their isolated pockets of the world may well have died from it before spreading it.
lol you're attempting to explain concepts of microbiology to little kids. even as watered down as this...i dont really think its worth the effort lol. just nod and move on
I think that it's hysterical and sad at the same time that people will believe the stupidest things that some crackhead started talking about first - Y2K bug, the Holocaust never happened, the world will end on [insert date here], everything that Mythbusters have debunked, and so much more - but refuse to accept scientifically proven facts (as though they can be done away with by sheer denial) if they don't care for them - global warming, the earth isn't flat, children live what they see and hear on tv and radio, and so much more. What the average person knows about anything you could put on the head of a pin and still have room for the Library of Congress twice over. Take the average puffed-up-ego successful lawyer laden with new techno-gadgets - almost a friggin demi-god... he can work from home, video conference, voice dial, automatic garage door opener, onstar, dvd players in the headrests - nothing he can't do almost just by thinking about it. But the sad truth is, outside of law and his one or two hobbies, Mr. Average knows almost nothing about the world he lives in and thinks he controls. What kind of bird is that that wakes you up every morning chirping? Who the hell knows? Can you identify any of the species of plants or trees that you walk past every day? No, why? How does a cell phone work, anyway? Or a DVD player? I don't know. Truth is, the average person can't tell you what direction their door swings into their house without thinking & arguing with their spouse about it for five minutes and if they have stairs in their house they can't tell you how many steps there are no matter how long they think about it. They'll brag that their kitchen is painted in a color called Wild Manzanita but they have no idea what a Manzanita is, and the paint has been up for two years. Damn, that was a hell of a rant. If there is a point, it's that most people's opinions on television shows are worth listening to but their opinions on worldly matters aren't.
Thats the stupidest thing I have ever heard. HIV/AIDS is an extremely well known disease and is still very fatal. There is no cure for AID's either so it is especially dangerous.
the U.S. government released the virus into America in the nineteen fifties right after world war 2 in order to control the population because soldiers were making serious whoopee with their significant others