Was 9/11/01 an Inside Job?

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  1. BobaFett

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    Information you found on the internet was disturbing? Well, no kidding. Welcome to the internet. ;)

    I did.

    You're right about one thing, our government does cover a lot of stuff up. Because it's classified information that could cause harm to our government, American citizens and our allies if it were leaked. A great example of this is the names and identities of C.I.A. agents. The only reason you feel like a fool is because you think you're being made on -- trust me, the government has nothing to do with that. And I can assure you that President Bush will remain in office through the end of his term.

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  2. slayerzoro

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    Yeah...true...but I still don't agree that Bush "rules" I think it's sort of like the election of 1820 I think where Andrew Jackson got stolen out of his presidency because Henry Clay gave JQA his votes but in this case there was more corruption =\ I still don't like bush >.<. He just doesn't seem too intellectual. Well...most people in this country aren't, but still....
     
  3. areo64

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    It's pretty much the video encyclopedia of the internet. Everything on it is true, you know. You probably were thinking of google video :p

    And the only reason Bush will stay in office until his term ends is that he's too stubborn to resign. He's already matched Nixon's record low approval ratings, and we still have 2 years to go. Anyone wanna start a pool to see how low they get before we have another national tragedy to boost them back up?
     
  4. mckrazy

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    watch video if you dont want to read.
    http://video.google.com/googleplayer.sw ... 8215075609


    Hollywood director and documentary film maker Aaron Russo has gone in-depth on the astounding admissions of Nick Rockefeller, who personally told him that the elite's ultimate goal was to create a microchipped population and that the war on terror was a hoax, Rockefeller having predicted an "event" that would trigger the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan eleven months before 9/11.

    Rockefeller also told Russo that his family's foundation had created and bankrolled the women's liberation movement in order to destroy the family and that population reduction was a fundamental aim of the global elite.

    Russo is perhaps best known for directing Trading Places starring Eddie Murphy but was more recently in the spotlight for his exposé of the criminal run for profit federal reserve system, the documentary America From Freedom to Fascism.

    Currently undergoing more treatment in his fight against cancer, Russo made time for a sit down interview with radio host and fellow documentary film maker Alex Jones in which he dropped bombshell after bombshell on what Rockefeller had told him about the direction the world was being steered towards by the global elite.

    After his popular video Mad As Hell was released and he began his campaign to become Governor of Nevada, Russo was noticed by Rockefeller and introduced to him by a female attorney. Seeing Russo's passion and ability to affect change, Rockefeller set about on a subtle mission to recruit Russo into the elite.

    During one conversation, Rockefeller asked Russo if he was interested in joining the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) but Russo rejected the invitation, saying he had no interest in "enslaving the people" to which Rockefeller coldly questioned why he cared about the "serfs."

    "I used to say to him what's the point of all this," states Russo, "you have all the money in the world you need, you have all the power you need, what's the point, what's the end goal?" to which Rockefeller replied (paraphrasing), "The end goal is to get everybody chipped, to control the whole society, to have the bankers and the elite people control the world."

    Rockefeller even assured Russo that if he joined the elite his chip would be specially marked so as to avoid undue inspection by the authorities.




    Russo states that Rockefeller told him, "Eleven months before 9/11 happened there was going to be an event and out of that event we were going to invade Afghanistan to run pipelines through the Caspian sea, we were going to invade Iraq to take over the oil fields and establish a base in the Middle East, and we'd go after Chavez in Venezuela."

    Rockefeller also told Russo that he would see soldiers looking in caves in Afghanistan and Pakistan for Osama bin Laden and that there would be an "Endless war on terror where there's no real enemy and the whole thing is a giant hoax," so that "the government could take over the American people," according to Russo, who said that Rockefeller was cynically laughing and joking as he made the astounding prediction.

    In a later conversation, Rockefeller asked Russo what he thought women's liberation was about. Russo's response that he thought it was about the right to work and receive equal pay as men, just as they had won the right to vote, caused Rockefeller to laughingly retort, "You're an idiot! Let me tell you what that was about, we the Rockefeller's funded that, we funded women's lib, we're the one's who got all of the newspapers and television - the Rockefeller Foundation."



    Rockefeller told Russo of two primary reasons why the elite bankrolled women's lib, one because before women's lib the bankers couldn't tax half the population and two because it allowed them to get children in school at an earlier age, enabling them to be indoctrinated into accepting the state as the primary family, breaking up the traditional family model.

    This revelation dovetails previous admissions on behalf of feminist pioneer Gloria Steinem (pictured) that the CIA bankrolled Ms. Magazine as part of the same agenda of breaking up traditional family models.

    Rockefeller was often keen to stress his idea that "the people have to be ruled" by an elite and that one of the tools of such power was population reduction, that there were "too many people in the world," and world population numbers should be reduced by at least half.

    One issue which has spiraled out of control of the elite according to Rockefeller's conversations with Russo, is the Israel-Palestine conflict, with serious thinking at one stage revolving around the bizarre notion of giving Israeli citizens one million dollars each and relocating them all in the state of Arizona.
     
  5. BobaFett

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    Wow. That is truly amazing.

    Amazingly idiotic.

    Where the hell is the proof? Does he have any tape recorded evidence that can prove the date that these things were said or that they are happening behind closed doors? No. Once again, this is a load of crap being thrown out there based on nothing except a conversation that supposedly had taken place. Show me some real proof that the attacks on my country were done by my government, and maybe I'll be able to take you seriously.

    I find it unbelieveable that you can sit there and listen to this and nod your thick head saying, "Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense!" And by thick, I mean that you have a hard time listening to what anybody is telling you. Once you have proof, present it and then tell me that the worse tragedy in American history was commited by its my own government. Until then, grow up, mature a bit and then think about it.

    There is a very, very long history of individuals coming out after any kind of event and saying "Hey, I predicted that would happen!" or "Hey, somebody told me that that was going to happen!". This video you are presenting is more of a hoax than anything else I have ever seen. And it disgusts me that there are people out there who believe it.

    And to show you just how ridiculous this is, here's a quote from the near-end of the video;

    "...that [the Government] were having a real problem solving the Israel-Palestine problem, and they were playing with the idea of brining Israel to Arizona. You know, and, taking all of the people from Israel, giving them a million dollars and settng up Israel in the state of Arizona."

    "Unbelievable."
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    That is absolutely the most moronic thing I have ever heard anyone say, fictional or otherwise. That statement right there throws all of his credibility out of the window and shows just how much he is trying to get in the public spotlight. Or he really just does not give a damn because he's dying of cancer anyway.

    If you would take two damned seconds to think about the things you are saying, you will realize that people lost loved ones in the tragedy that is 9/11 and that these ridiculous Bush-bashing conspiracies do nothing but hurt those individuals, and you'll know what it's like to be a compassionate human being. So it's only a win-win situation for you.

    And personally, I think this dope Mr. Russo needs to be hung before he is allowed to die of cancer. And you know what, let's throw this Mr. Rockefeller up there with him. Ungrateful bastards...
     
  6. moose

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    i hate bush and i know that the 9/11 thing was not a hoax
    1: there is a thing that osama had written down that i can dig up saying when he was planning to do it, what happend in the past and other stuff
    2. if bush did do it how come they didnt shoot osama on the spot instead of keeping him for so long eh?
    i have one thing to say to bush

    Fuck you eh!

    that was spoken from a canadians prespective

    and the song that best fits in with this topic is Mosh by eminem
    in case you havent heard it it is about makin the soilders come back and send bush to fight his own fuckin war
     
  7. mckrazy

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    proof proof proof. so where is the proof it was a terrorist attack?
    where are the so called terrorists that flew the plane on 9/11. they are all alive. or most of thm anyways, show me proof that it WASNT bush.
     
  8. BobaFett

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    Don't be mad because you can't provide any for your pathetic conspiracy theories and cries for attention by claiming them the "truth". Had you done any actual research on the subject, and related subjects, you might actually know what I've been talking about.

    And because I really don't feel like wasting any more energy on you than I already have, I'll just link you to some online resources that you clearly need to desperately read. And please, read each of them in full from a neutral point of view.

    First, read the Wikipedia article on September 11th, 2001. And before you whine that Wikipedia is open source and anybody can make changes on it, try reading the rest of the information on the sites listed below:

    - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11,_2001_attacks
    - http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report.pdf
    - http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2004/10/2 ... 41029.html
    - http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/12/13/r ... videotape/
    - http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report_Ch1.htm
    - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4850988.stm
    - http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld ... news-print
    - http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1600806&page=1
    - http://www.vaed.uscourts.gov/notablecas ... se/941.pdf
    - http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2006/09/0 ... -tape.html
    - http://www.number-10.gov.uk/output/page3682.asp
    - http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htm
    - http://www.september11archive.com/
    - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/na ... ed/sept11/

    Please, read them. All of them. And in full. You might actually learn something about what actually happened.

    And now for me to tear apart your post and eat it alive...again.

    Try reading the information, based on real factual proof, and you'll learn, if it's possible anymore, that the attacks on 9/11 were in fact, a terrorist attack on my country.

    Wrong, all of the highjackers are dead. Because their planes either crashed into the World Trade Center towers, the Pentagon, or into Pennsylvania. What more do you want?

    Again, try reading the information I provided above.

    Have fun. And please, don't bother coming back until after you've educated yourself on the topic and the actual happenings of September 11th.
     
  9. dutch

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    Yes it was. I have proof. Do the math for the towers falling down. It wouldnt take 10 seconds, more like 40 seconds I think it was. And btw, I seen this vid of a guy slowing down the first tower coming down and you can see 6+ explosions going off at the top right hand part of the tower.
     
  10. moose

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    wow are you that stuiped?
    read my post and ill dig up what i was talking about right now
    and just to let you know that saddam (not osama like i said)
    is obsessed with the number 11
    i didnt belive it at first but it is all true info
    1) New York City has 11 letters
    2) Afghanistan has 11 letters
    3) Ramsin Yuseb (the terrorist who threatened to destroy the Twin Towers in 1993) has 11 letters
    4) George W Bush has 11 letters

    This could be mere coincidence, but this gets more interesting:

    1) New York City is the 11th State
    2) The first plane to crashing into the Twin Towers was flight number 11.
    3) Flight 11 was carrying 92 passengers. 9 + 2 = 11
    4) Flight 77 which also hit the Twin Towers, was carrying 65 passengers. 6 + 5 = 11
    5) The tragedy was on September 11th or 9/11 as it is known. 9 + 1 + 1 = 11
    6) The date is equal to the US emergency services telephone number 911. 9 + 1 + 1 = 11

    Sheer coincidence...?! Read on and make up your own mind:
    1) The total number of victims inside all the planes was 254. 2 + 5 + 4 =11
    2) September 11th is day number 254 of the calendar year. Again 2 + 5 + 4 = 11
    3) The Madrid bombing took place on 3/11/2004. 3 + 1 + 1 + 2 + 4 = 11
    4) The tragedy of Madrid happened 911 days after the Twin Towers incident.

    Now this is where things get totally eerie:

    The most recognised symbol for the US, after the Stars and Stripes, is the Eagle. The following verse is taken from the Quran, the Islamic holy book:

    "For it is written that a son of Arabia would awake a fearsome Eagle. The wrath of the eagle would be felt throughout the lands of Allah and lo, while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced: for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah and there was peace."

    Still unconvinced? Try this and see how you feel afterwards:
    Open Microsoft Word and do the following:

    1) Type in Capitals Q33 NY. This is the flight number of the first plane to hit the Twin Towers
    2) Highlight the Q33 NY.
    3) Change the font size to 48
    4) Change the actual font to WINGDINGs
    most of that info was found written by saddam
     
  11. mckrazy

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    exactly,2xplanes +bombs, there is a cover up here for sure.

    and one thing i never heard about was, the people on the plane, what happened to 2, sorry 3 plane loads of passengers?
    they were never named, it wasnt even said how many where on the planes.
    sounds a bit dodgy to me mate.

    and how comes most of the suspected hijackers where have been found alive and well, 1 of them is on flying duty, for an egyption airline if imnot mistaken.
    they found saddam hussein in an underground box.
    bin laden is a dying man, how is it so hard to find him?
    and he is the one apperently responsible for it all.
    its small questions likethese that always make me think, and im sure even if you are american youthink these things too, or have done before.

    i get critiscized for having no proof but hwere is the proof, that it wasnt an inside job?

    and btw this is was on ur list of links
    "On the morning of September 11, 2001, nineteen terrorists affiliated with al-Qaeda hijacked four commercial passenger jet airliners. "

    this information is false and it is proven to be false, they have all been found to be alive. how do you explain that?
     
  12. dutch

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    First off all if your calling me "stuiped" atleast I can spell stupid :p. Anyway if you ever go on loosechange forums they talk about this, most say it just happened, but many think its weird. And I guess its weird, but I know the goverment is tied in with this.

    Are you talking about the planes that went down? The two in the towers and the one that "crashed" ? The shanksville plane, landed at cleveland, and everyone was taken to a nasa building there, and then a drone duplicate plane was flown to shanksville to "crash".
     
  13. moose

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    the reason why i wrote stuiped wrong is cause im canadian
    and if your sooo smart knowing everything then why did those ppl take over that plane that crashed into the feild???? they called theyre loved ones and told em they loved them cause they knew they werent gonna live
    those terroists had 2 reasons for attackin
    1. in theyre religion the more ppl u kill the closer you get to god
    and 2. they hated bush just like we do
    hes a loser no one likes him and he DID NOT SET UP 9/11!!!!
     
  14. dutch

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    First off being canadian doesnt give you the rights to flame me, now does it. Second off listen to the phone calls. Did you hear anyone crying or shouting, or even any stress in there voices? No, they where pre recorded by the goverment using voice changing tech. that was released that year or a year before 9/11.
     
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    the calls were not recorded none of the fam members would allow it
    if you find solid evidance that your theory is correct i will give you 500+k
     
  16. dutch

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    No offense in this, but you just made me laugh in real life. Voice changing tech everyone with a brain and a computer knows what it is. All you need to do is talk to a person on the phone for 2 mins and if your recording them with the tech you can talk like them without them even knowing it. And for solid proof google : loosechange in google video.
     
  17. moose

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    you just proved my point
    voice changing tech
    lmao meaning they can make someone sound like someone else to make the
    videos

    your a noob cause i got all my facts straight
    my mom used to work at the airport and she had the files run thru her from other airports saying that 3 planes had been highjacked and there could be more some even in canada
    so bite me
     
  18. dutch

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    Two things, first off dont flame, only "flamers" are the noobs. Second off ty for the great siggy! Will be using on all forums. And lastly dont swear, little kids use these forums!
     
  19. BobaFett

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    Yeah, yeah. I've heard the all before.

    And there are a few problems with the whole conspiracy;

    Number 1, American Airlines Flight 77 was only carrying 64 passengers, not 65.
    Number 2, The total number of people on the four aircraft was 246, not 254.
    Number 3, That supposed verse from the Quran was an email hoax. Read here about it's debunking here; http://www.screamingpickle.com/members/quran/

    Sorry to burst your bubble. :p

    Read this article, specifically, read point number six. It will explain exactly why the towers fell as fast as the had; http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htm

    And as for the the "explosions" you say you've seen in a video, read the article above, specifically points four and five. Also take a look at this article and it's many, many sources; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled ... ade_Center

    And to you I also say, sorry to burst your bubble, but your conspiracy fact-less theories don't hold up to factual information and actual studies conducted on this topic.

    No, there isn't. How much more do I have to do to show that there is no damn cover up?

    Wrong again, there were four total planes that were hijacked and crashed. And what happened to them? They were all killed when the planes crashed. Is that that difficult of a concept to understand?

    Yes they were. Do some damn research off of Google Video and YouTube and you'll learn some facts.

    Go here for the names and other information on each of the 2,973 people that died; http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/memorial/

    It's really not. You just have to be able to comprehend facts.

    That man that was found had the same name as one of the hijackers but had a different physical appearence and did not have the same birth date. Do some research and you'll learn wonderful things.

    No, he was found underground in a foxhole. Not a box.

    Because he is very wealthy and has thousands of places he could be hiding in numerous countries.

    No, he is the one responsible. Go read some of the links I gave you and you'll see that he even admitted to it.

    No, none of this idiotic conspiracies have never crossed my mind except for one they are presented to me. And even then, they are not in anyway supported and are just that, conspiracies.

    I gave you the bloody proof. Go read it, damn it!

    What information is false? It's right there in front of your face. None of the hijackers have been found alive. They all sacrificed their lives to murder thousands of American lives.

    Dutch: Go hang ot with 'mckrazy' and the two of you can do some real research on the subject. The plane that crashed in Pennsylvania actually did crash in Pennsylvania; it did not land in Cleveland. And for you to claim otherwise is disgraceful. As for the phone calls, have you listened to them? There is plenty of crying, screaming, and panic in the voices of the passengers. And if you are getting your "facts" from the "LooseChange" video, then that is your first problem. That entire video is based off of circumstantial evidence (go look up the definition) and contains absolutely no factual information. The conspiracies that surround the actual happenings of 9/11 are simply made to bash President Bush and his presidency.

    I will suspend both "dutch" and "shade" if this board turns into a flame war. That is not its intention
     
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    look im not trying to argue here, im just getting my views out.
    didnt mean to cause an arguement, onlty to express my views.
    but honestly there are things we dont know, tings only the governments know.

    no offence inteded but i think bush is a right wa**ker.
     
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