Can you build Junior a Desktop?

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  1. Junior

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    Okay so I have this old desktop case that I want to start buying parts for, so that I can build a monster desktop PC. I am not set on this case, and am open to new cases to fit all parts etc, but yea. Anyway, my question to you is (mainly because I'm a lazy sack of cake :p) can you build me a computer?

    What I want:

    A Desktop PC (NO MACS!!!)
    MINIMUM OF 8GB RAM! Preferably 16gb or at least room to upgrade to 16gb.
    MINIMUM of a 1gb graphics card. (no special favourites here.. gotta be HD though)
    Blue Ray Player/burner
    Dual TV Tuners
    Hydro-Cooled (liquid/water cooler) preferably as it will keep it cooler and I intend to do some gaming on it.
    Minimum of a QuadCore Processor. Don't care if its AMD, Intel etc.
    Capable of 7.2 surround sound (or similar/close to this) - excellent quality sound plz.

    I want this PC for high quality gaming and to be used as a media center also.

    I am building it myself, so preferably parts that all fit together nicely and work without any conflict issues.
    I want links to the cheapest places to purchases these items can be purchased AND shipped, keeping in mind the conversion rates to AUS dollar.

    This is VERY similar to the specs I'm after, however I'm hoping by building it myself I can save a bit of cash. Also, I want a few extra things in mine.
    http://www.oztion.com.au/buy/auction.as ... d=47676498

    I WILL be happy with prebuilt PC's, if you can find one cheapish (including conversion rates :p).

    YES you can post prices in USD, I am able to convert prices if I need.

    With all these results, I'll collate a list. Possibly mix and match. I will then put up a poll and ask everyone to vote for their favourite/what they consider the best for the price. If I agree, there will be a prize for the computer/setup selected.

    Prize will include Forum Reputation (and I'm worth 5 :p), as well as some neopoints. (the amount currently not decided upon).
     
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  3. tharoux

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    EPIC reply !
    If I wasn't THAT lazy, this would go to the quote DB.
     
  4. Kaden

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    *looks at the price*..... *looks again*... *looks at the specs*... *considers buying it*.....

    That is a pretty damn nice price for those specs o_O..

    for a pre-packaged computer that is...

    I would suggest building it yourself though as you WILL get that sort of setup cheaper. if you have any computer shops near you, go and see if they can stock any of those parts for you. Make sure you check out the website for the specific product first though and get the RRP of that item, to make sure they don't try and rip you off.

    other things to look out for:
    I remember hearing something about water cooling systems that use 2 different metals/alloys that have a (slow) chemical reaction together (aluminium and copper was it?)..

    just be careful of this, as it leads to corrosion... and lets face it, water/coolant doesn't mix well with expensive electrical equipment (like when you go swimming with your phone in your pocket =.=)..



    make sure you get a 64x OS, if you are having over 4 GB of RAM. as only 64x OS's can pick up more then 3-4GB.....

    make sure the products have drivers for 64x machines (Most do nowadays anyway)..

    but yea... the BEST place to get the parts you want would be at a store that buys items in bulk. they generally lower their fee's when they don't have to pay for constant shipping, etc. and if you are good at Social Engineering then you will get it close to cost ;)
     
  5. Rundownandy

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    You could always try alienware? :p

    I don't know much about building computers, but my friends brother built his own his own. He bought all his parts off newegg.com
    Saved him alot of money, so I'd check it out and see if you can get anything cheaper there. :p
     
  6. Denied

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    DO NOT WASTE YOUR MONEY ON THERE OVER PRICED CAKE...

    First off, it's good to see you getting into pc gaming, much better for FPS SHOOTERS...

    Second, what's your budget? I think 4gb ram sticks are still OP as the are new in the market

    Thrid, Water cooling will set you back mega bucks, $500-$750 and the risk of you stuffing it up are pretty high as it's such a complex precedure, may as well get someone else to do it...

    Fourth, don't buy from overseas, once you include shipping it isn't any cheaper, cheapest pc place in Adel is msy...


    This is from pcpowerplay

    CPU: Intel Core i7 930 ~$349
    Most powerful CPU architecture on the market.2.80 GHz, 4.8 GT/sec QPI, 8MB Cache, Socket LGA1366
    Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R Motherboard ~$259
    LGA1366 board, 6xDDR3 Slots, Supports 3 way SLI and Crossfire and carries a large sexy motherboard heatsink.
    GPU: ASUS ATI Radeon HD5970 2GB ~$899
    Worlds longest and most powerful graphics card, ASUS VT BIOS for overclocking goodness.
    RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws F3-12800CL8T-6GBRM 1600Mhz (3x2GB) DDR3 ~$229
    Overclocking headroom at a good price, what more do you want?
    HDD: A-RAM Pro Series 128GB SSD ~$379
    Fastest storage is currently SSD's, once you use one you won't go back!
    HDD: Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB HD103SJ ~$99
    Very fast, and very large.
    DVD: BenQ DW240S 24x Internal DVD±RW Drive ~$35
    22x Burn Speed, Blazing fast.
    Case: Lian Li PC-A70FB Black ~$298
    Exceptional quality aluminium and value for money.
    Power Supply: Enermax Revolution85+ SLI 1050W ~$339
    More power than you will ever use. but just in case you get that second 5970
    Total: Approx. $2886


    A good place to Check prices is staticice.com.au, it's a shop search engine that finds the cheapest price
     
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  7. Junior

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    Hehe.. no worries about me stuffing the putting together process up. But thanks for the concern.. Didn't realise water cooling systems were so darn expensive - Might have to give that part a miss, or work something else out.

    Anyone else got any ideas/suggestions?
     
  8. Tofurky

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    Definitely don't do water cooling... very expensive, very time consuming. Stick with fans.
    Denied's part suggestions are SERIOUSLY overkill. The only reason for those parts would be if you do SERIOUS movie editing. I made a computer 2 years ago that cost $850, and upgrading a Radeon 4830 to a 5770 (~$130) a year in. Still can play pretty much all of my games on max settings, with an exception here and there like Crysis and GTA IV (terrible PC port). I can also play blu-ray quality movies on a 1920x1200 monitor.

    That video cart he suggests is absurd. You SHOULD NOT be paying more for a GPU than your CPU, and the CPU he suggests is top of the line. If there's anything you should splurge on, it should be the CPU and motherboard. In my experience, I upgraded a part here and then maybe once a year if needed, but now I'm at the point where the next upgrade will require a new motherboard, so I'll pretty much need to do a new build. Having a topnotch CPU and motherboard with plenty of slots will prolong that for years. I'd agree with the 6 GB ram on a x64 system (though I've had no problems with 4 gb). I can't believe DDR3 costs so much (4 gb of ddr2 was at most $80 when I bought it), but the new CPUs require it. Wait until SSD hard drives get cheaper. They are so not worth it o_O. The power supply suggested seems to be way over the top. I see his reasoning though: "More power than you will ever use. but just in case you get that second 5970." My advice: the radeon 58xx will be plenty powerful, cheaper, and won't need as much power. Also, I'm not sure how anyone could justify paying $300 for a case... aim for $100.
     
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  9. Heya

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    First of all, im tired of people calling alienware overprice piece of poo poo. Its really not overpriced. For what i payed, the only thing i could of gotten instead was crossfire dual GPU instead of a single GPU. Now while thats all nice, I got features in this laptop i wouldn't of in that one. Things to consider other then the regular specs are... ports, special software, backlight keyboard (for laptops), WARRANTY, and most importantly is build QUALITY. I work on laptops at my job repairing them and let me tell you, this laptop is build better then any of those laptops. No one takes these kind of things in to consideration... those features aren't free... my laptop was cheaper then that computer, and yea, cpu is alittle better, and gpu is dual, but i have a laptop, with more RAM too (mine operates at 1600 too).

    If you look at it, alienware is a little pricey, but often, you get other features that aren't taken into consideration.

    The new alienware desktops... I was able to build an alienware area 51 with 12 GB of DDR3 RAM instead of 6, almost the same CPU, Same dual-gpu except 1GB instead of 2GB, 256GB SSD instead of 128GB SSD.
    All around, a better deal then what you posted, bashing alienware... Do your research...

    I don't see 128GB SSD really working well with windows 7. operating system will bring that down to 80-90 left. Even if you use the other 1TB harddrive or backups or w/e, still, only 80-90GB for everything is weak. Take some of that out for virtual memory too... Oh yeah, you didn't include an OS either in your cost, while mine dose...

    Other crappy part is warranty. You have no warranty by building your own, as you do when you buy an alienware...
     
  10. Tofurky

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    Not all parts have warranty, but a bunch do. In my first build one of the parts wasn't working and newegg just sent me another one... I didn't even need to mail the broken one back.
     
  11. Heya

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    You can, but not accidental coverage... You sit a drink on top, it gets knocked over and gets through the vents, you baby is toast. But if you have accidental coverage, your saved :p
     
  12. Junior

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    My home insurance would cover the accidental coverage ;)
     
  13. zikaroo

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    dam thats an epic desktop :p and very pricey