Grapes of Wrath

Discussion in 'Neopets Chit-Chat' started by statter, Nov 11, 2009.

  1. statter

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    It seems like there is a new cove item, anyone know the details of it? Or maybe it is too early to have information on it :p
     
  2. Commy

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    It does 24 icons - 9 fire' 15 earth. it's gonna be worth over 100m instantly I think
     
  3. Elhoof

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    Bd chat is going nuts over it, reports that munsterpoo is buying them for 500 mill, man thats 2 grand usd right there
     
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    munsterpoo said that he'll buy them if for that much if they're not downgraded. Or something along those lines.
     
  5. xaznflyboyx

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    Thats a ridiculously high price that they're being sold for o_O
     
  6. Elhoof

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    This brings up something that's been brought up in the past, a smugglers cove aber.

    The problems I've seen are that you easily get iced (not too sure this one is true)

    The refresh limit is too low, ie you get banned very quickly (could be solved by having lots of accounts?)

    Cove hardly ever has items in it (true but when they are in, they are reputed to stock frequently, i've heard that in the first couple hours of the grapes being released there were 4+)

    So is the viability of a program that can be inputed with like 50 account details and log into them one after another continuously to check smugglers cove completely flawed? Obviously might need some ironing out as to maybe include some spidering and proxy support but is there something I'm missing?
     
  7. Kangaroos

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    How many of each cove item are released again? And does anyone know how long it takes before the item becomes retired. (Not retired, retired. But when the max number is released)
     
  8. Mr Awesome

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    Having 50 accounts is all well and good. But can you afford to put 155 dubloons on each of those 50 accounts, which is what the Grapes cost.

    In case, you people cant count, thats 7750 dubloons. Thats about 15mil, and with the inflated dubloon prices right now, its probably alot more than that.
     
  9. americanpierg

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    15 mil is nothing when the item youre trying to get is 300-500 mil. i would do it... but itd be soo hard and time consuming it wont be worth it at all (too much work to try to win the lottery!). 120 accounts means i can refresh the cove twice a minute. id assume you'll have to be there at least 10 seconds at the absolute latest after the cove retocks to get any chance at the item. id hate to risk my accounts and my time trying to get an item thats impossibly hard to get without luck. Also remember that if you have this idea of using 120 accounts... most likely there are a lot of other people out there doing the same. Some may even be using 240+ accounts and what not. Use one account on IE with the dubloons waiting in the cove, use the other 240 shells on firefox to refresh 4 times a minute. Others may quickly make an autobuyer to do all this for them (found a lot of people in forums already working on autobuyers, but only need some sort of source code (?) for the cove). 300mil+ np sure is a lot and will save me years of "work" in neopets, but the chances are too slim to try to work so hard in trying to get one.

    id rather TNT not release any of these uber weapons than to release them as cove items and taunt us. the simple fact is that they keep talking about detering inflation... weapons are easily the most expensive items in neopets, so the easiest way to do that is throw in a pea-caliber weapon in the tower for 300 mil. 20 of these weapons... 6 billion np sudden vanishes from the economy, what better way to counter inflation than that?
     
  10. jason95_coolboy

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    Just wish could rs one but not even bryan can then who am i
     
  11. Elhoof

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    Personally gambling 50 mill for a decent shot at 300-400mill is way worth it imo let alone 15.., the question I think would be how high the freeze rate would be for something like this, personally this would be of no use to me as I could not be bothered to get 50 accounts but I'm interested in it from a theoretical point of view. With the right rig and a decent connection I think it would be pretty possible, maybe to make it appear more innocent do a couple dailies too perhaps, in all seriousness if its plausible that could be a nice easy 2k worth of neopoints in your pocket, though the price is too high atm imo..

    The trickiest thing is probably how you would get so many different proxies for safety and how greatly they would diminish your speed. btw if you had around 100 accounts I reckon that would be enough to continue indefinitely or near abouts. I reckon when nothings stocking some experiments could be done to get some stats on how bans work at the smugglers cove
     
  12. americanpierg

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    By decent shot you mean close to nil...
     
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    Its a 20% chance to grab Grapes from cove(with a decent connection etc)...With all those accounts you are trying to increase your odds...Which is better!!

    If you are determined to get that item..You can follow the method!!

    But we have to do more research for making an aber for cove!!!How long you can refresh without being banned..Ban lasts for how long..What is the normal buying time from the cove..etc..
     
  14. americanpierg

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    lol 20%? Did you know that 74.5% of all statistics under 50% are made up on the spot?
    If you can only refresh 4 times an hour, and assuming the grapes restock once an hour, you have a 4/3600 chance of getting one, ASSUMING you refresh at exactly the right time and beat out all those people who happened to refresh at exactly the right time too. 1/10th of a percent... a far cry from this 20% you pulled out from thin air. EVEN if we say the item stays in the cove for 5 seconds, giving you a 5 second window to buy it, your chances only improve to slightly over HALF of 1%.

    Anyways, doing a little google search and you'll find a ton of people on every neopets cheat site are employing different methods in an attempt to get this item.... all this in less than 24 hours since this thing has been launched. Considering the weekend is coming up, and the supply will dry out by Monday probably, you have much less than a 1% chance of getting one by Monday from the cove.

    Youre competing with hundreds of other people trying to get it legitamately, along with hundreds of other cheaters who will use multiple accounts and abers... all for an item that may or may not stock once or twice every hour. People who have gotten one from the cove aren't people who staked out at the cove 24/7 since its been released, theyve been those who were lucky enough to refresh at exactly the right time.

    EVEN if you have some full proof method, that buy's you an item almost instantaneously, just 4 other people using that "method" reduces your chances already down to 20%. I'm pretty sure whatever "method" you come up with, there are much, MUCH more than 4 other people using this "method," unless your some sort of genius that thought up of something that all these programmers and neopets addicts out there havnt though up of yet, which i highly doubt.

    BTW, a smugglers cove aber is worthless unless you want to create one for personal use. whos gonna care about a program that has such a niche use? You'll use it for like 5 days a year. worse yet, whos gonna take the time to create a program that people are gonna use 5 days out of the year?
     
  15. Anfan

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    Potential for a new SuAP avatar, but this time with Grapes of Wrath? :D
     
  16. piggybepink

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    I won't even try for this item. Good luck to anyone who attempts it, though!
     
  17. TtotheJay

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    Heh.. I bought the dubloons thinking I was going to try.. and I think I've given up xD
     
  18. Chobo

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    are they maxed out yet xD

    i hate how neopets does this... only a few get lucky and they are instantly richer than 98% of neopets
     
  19. GrapeFruit

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    I don't think all are sold out I've been watching since yesterday I'd say a good 70-80 have probably been released last known rs was at 6:23 this morning NST.
     
  20. flipmyflo

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    I won't even bother with this either although it would be nice...but getting an Abber there seems too complicated and people talking about having 50+ accounts lol. But fyi I have Grapes of Wrath...the book..in real life lol :D