well me and my bro talked and he gave me a lot of good items so im not gonna cheat neopets but im still gonna stay here and be a talker but im still gonna use the spiderer once i get the points they might not ice me if i use that. oh and did you know that there is a refresh ban on neopets my bro was refreshing and it comes up and says that you can not refresh for half an hr you know thats pretty bad.