Optimization Problem Help +REP!

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  1. Tally

    Tally Level III

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    Hi, I need some quick help with this problem.

    A box with a square base and no top must have a volume of 10000cm^3. If the smallest dimension in any direction is 5cm, then determine the dimensions of the box that minimize the amount of material used.
     
  2. Richy

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    The most efficient volume is always a cube. This being stated, the cubed root of 10,000 is (about) 21.54. So, I'd imagine, 21.54 by 21.54 by 21.54, and you'd have five sides of 21.54 squared. 463.97 * 5 = 2319.85, which should be your total material used.
    At least, that's what I think!
     
  3. Tally

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    Richy, thanks for trying, but that's not true in this case, because the box has no top. I got the answer from the book, and it's suppose to be 27.14 x 27.14 x 13.57, I'm just not sure how they got it.
     
  4. Richy

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    V = L x W x H
    M will be material used
    M = 2(L x H) + 2(W x H) + L x W
    M = 2LH + 2WH + LW

    H = V/LW
    M = 2L(V/LW) + 2W(V/LW) + LW
    M = 2V/W + 2V/L + LW

    V = 10,000
    M = 20,000/W + 20,000/L + LW

    My math skills are way too rusty *cries*
    Good luck!
     
  5. Zer0

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    V = xyz = 10,000
    M = xy + 2xz + 2yz

    Goal: Minimize M

    So, from the first equation we have z = 10000/(xy)
    Plug that into the second equation and we get this:

    M = xy + 20000/y + 20000/x

    To minimize that function, we take the partials with respect to x and y and set them equal to 0.

    dM/dx = y - 20000*x^-2 = 0
    dM/dy = x - 20000*y^-2 = 0

    Since they both equal to 0, we can set those equations equal to each other:

    y - 20000*x^-2 = x - 20000*y^-2

    It should be clear now that x = y

    So...
    x - 20000*x^-2 = 0
    x = y = 27.14

    Plug that back in to get z = 13.57
     
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  6. Tally

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    Ok, this is good, but since we know that the box will have a Square base, can we not say M=x^2 + 4xh ?

    EDIT: Nvm, I think you just proved it. Thanks for the help. + REP.