Please help me build my PC!

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  1. PrinceErik

    PrinceErik Level IV

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    + rep to anyone that helps

    Looking to build my PC, its the first time I am building one, although have helped, so I am not completely clueless. Looking for some wholesale sites and stuff so I can make a good computer for the money, looking to spend around $500, could goo a little more or a little less. I don't need anything insanely good, but also not anything bad, so anything you can do to help me out, any guides, any sites, any specific parts (everything I'd need perhaps)

    thanks for the help :)
     
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    Alright I can almost give you a list of parts you want to get (and where to get them), given you know a few of these answers.

    What is most important - balance, multi-tasking, or graphics?
    Are looks anything you need?

    Right off that bat, spending $500 on a desktop PC, I can tell you that AMD processors will give you the best value and performance balance. Anything north of $600/700, performance is more key and Intel processors will be your choice. Now if you still want an Intel processor, you can still get one (just let me know).
     
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    whatever you think it is best, but i think a balance is good, since i will be doing a lot of basic things like neo, then some programming, and maybe some basic gaming, so whatever you think is best.

    and looks arent important.
    and only intel if you think that is the best option

    thanks :)
     
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    READ: Please read all the notes I put in because those are probably more important than the parts I suggest. Also, check eBay :).

    You can shop around for some cheaper prices :). I would REALLY suggest checking eBay because you can find some sexy deals there, but be sure they are NOT MADE IN CHINA or shipped from China. Check feedback and reputation of course :p.


    Processor - Option 1 (AMD)
    Name: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz 6 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor
    Quantity: 1

    Cheapest Found: link - $169.99
    eBay - saw one go for $100

    That's 6 cores, although they are AMD cores :p. Check eBay, you can find some good deals there. I think I just saw one go for $100, so if you want to spend more on your graphics card, choose this one.


    Processor - Option 2 (INTEL)
    Name: Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor
    Quantity: 1

    Cheapest Found: NewEgg - $219.99
    eBay - $190

    This is my way to go because I need more computing power :p. Yes, it only has 4 cores vs the AMD's 6, but remember, an Intel 8-core outperformed an AMD 16-core.


    Motherboard - Option 1 (AMD)
    Name: ASRock A770DE+ AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard
    Quantity: 1

    Cheapest Found: link - $59.99

    You can shop around for more boards and find others. If you want something more high-end that really has better features, try $129.99, but this should be more than sufficient (solid reviews, DDR3, 2 PCI-Express x16 slots, supports six cores). If you are interested, here is what I found as AMD3 motherboards...be sure they are compatible with Phenom II 125W+ processors.


    Motherboard - Option 2 (INTEL)
    Name: ASRock A770DE+ AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard
    Quantity: 1

    Cheapest Found: link - $69.99

    Once again, you see a lot of saving going on when you go AMD, although the benchmark for Intel just shatters AMD. The saving goes towards the graphics card, so it really depends on you.


    Memory
    Name: Memory of Your Choice (ask me once you have selected something)
    Quantity: 2

    Memory is usually really cheap. There are 'extras' on memory like heatspreaders, that might cost more but will help spread heat (if you feel like you need it). Brand names like Kingston and Corsair will also be a little more expensive). Your motherboard supports up to 16GB so you can select what you think is good for you. I would start HERE.

    For Option 2 (INTEL): You may get up to 4 memory sticks, although your limit is still 16 GB. I would usually get either 2 or 4 to fully take advantage of the dual channel. Ask me for more details.



    Power Supply
    Name: Probably a modulus supply with some 80 PLUS standards
    Quantity: 1

    Perhaps you'd want to start HERE and then go on to check eBay. I would suggest a modulus supply, especially for novice builders. Even advanced builders prefer modulus because you don't have to deal with a shit-load of cords to tuck and neatly tie-down. When you are building, make SURE you do not block the airflow because that is the worst thing that you can do (besides not screwing in all the screws in the motherboard) - bad airflow in computer = BURNING PARTS.



    Case
    Name: It really matters on your color preference and what you're looking for.
    Quantity: 1

    You can start HERE. Since you are not looking for 'looks', find one that has sufficient fans/airflow, and the right size. I believe you might be able to fit your parts in a Mid Tower. Not sure.



    Video Card(s) - Option 1 (AMD)
    Name: Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5
    Quantity: 1

    Cheapest Found: link - $159.99


    See more for more details once you have decided option 1 or 2.


    Video Card(s) - Option 2 (INTEL)
    Name: Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5
    Quantity: 1

    Cheapest Found: link - $159.99


    See more for more details once you have decided option 1 or 2. This might or might not fit into your budget.


    Main Storage 1
    Main Drive: 30GB SSD Drive
    Quantity: 1

    Cheapest Found: ~$60


    Main Storage 2
    Main Drive: 1TB HDD Drive
    Quantity: 1

    Cheapest Found: ~$55


    Okay, so I still have a lot of things to ask you and what you want most, especially the AMD vs Intel. The Main Storage options 1 & 2 are optional, and the 30GB SSD might not be something that you find worth it. I personally don't feel like you need the SSD boot drive (up to you though if you want data security), so I will do a re-estimate after you make your choices of cases, power supply, and extras. I usually go in the order of finding the CPU and corresponding motherboard, then the less expensive. I see what I have left and if I need to cut some $$ for a better graphics card, I do. It's not that I don't value the graphics card, I just see how much the total is and then see if I can squeeze a nice card in there.

    Some other options you might need: RAID controller, wireless network card, keyboard, mouse, monitor (I can help too)
     
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    wow, thanks lightning, so are all of these compatible with each other? if so, my choice would be:

    Processor - Option 1 (AMD)
    Motherboard - Option 1 (AMD)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6811147073
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6817152028
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820145345
    Video Card(s) - Option 1 (AMD)
    Main Storage 2

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 62334&SID=
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814133321 dual
    http://www.overstock.com/guides/How-to- ... -Gaming-PC

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6835705055

    and then i do need a keyboard, nothing exceptional or anything, just plain and black

    and again, i am not sure if they are good choices or are compatible, if not, let me know
     
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    Yes, those are all compatible :). Now, I'm curious about the selection with AMD. Was this due to price or for graphical performance?
     
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    Very good choices :)

    You are right about 'extra' performance, the Intel i5-2500k is a 2nd generation Intel i5 CPU, so the performance is one of the best. Price-wise, it is still pretty good, but it would be extra cash to those who don't need it.
    Exactly how much programming? I usually have at least 2 Visual Studios + Dreamweaver + Photoshop + 8 tab Chrome + (occasional) 2k11, so I would need Intel's performance. As for gaming, this is the question. For example, what games?


    Case: Good, simple choice for those that don't need the flashy lights. No concern about the ventilation, although there is only 1 fan. No worries for you unless you are planning to overclock a larger amount (if a little more than the usual, try non-stock heatsinks).

    Power Supply: Great you got a modular supply. No 80 certification, which is by NO means a requirement, but if you are a long-use (5+ hours), daily user, it will help with your electricity bill.

    Memory: Corsair's always reliable. May be a more expensive brand-name, and heatspreaders are a preference. Those should not matter, as long as you are happy, it's a good choice. :)


    Please do keep me updated on what parts, so I can see if I might be able to upgrade you before you build. I almost can slip a few bucks there, a few bucks here, and you'll have better parts under $500 :).
     
  9. PrinceErik

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    ok, thanks! and probably not too much programming, definitely less than you :p and as for gaming, once diablo 3 comes out, probably that!

    and ok, i will find the cheapest sites i can for each of those parts and then post it for sure and let you check it out :) is that everything i'd need?
     
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    Depending on what you get as storage and how many drives, you might need a RAID controller. You can read up on it here.

    You might also want a monitor to go along with your sexy new computer :p. I suggest getting a higher quality 2D monitor because of the lack of support for 3D on computers. Also, you would need to get a 3D compatible Graphics Card. Some games may support 3D, but for the most part, the only use you will find for it is watching movies. I may get 3D just for that though because I don't have a 3D TV.

    Lastly, a network card might be needed if you don't have this in your room where you have cable/satellite/DSL, or unfortunately for you, dial-up, you will need to make wireless connections. Think about card-readers (should be cheap), Optical Drives, and bluetooth adapters. If your monitor does not have a built-in webcam and you don't have one, it might be cool to get one too! A lot to think of, but whenever you are building, just pop on in and let me know what you're up to. I'm on MSN a lot these days, and I can give you tips for each step :).
     
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    sounds great, thanks! and no monitor needed, i have a 24" HD monitor :) so i will go ahead and start finding the exact ones i will purchase and post and let you know, thanks again :D
     
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    Nice build guys.

    Have you thought of barebones (WIKI: A barebone computer is a partially assembled platform or an unassembled kit of computer parts allowing more customization and lower costs than a retail computer system).

    I find that its easy to build but still with some good performance. so normaly all you have to add is CPU and Mem and GFX card. The good thing about barebones is that they normaly have low power consuption, look nice cheap to make.

    hmmmm just trying to google some and cant find any looks like the market never took off. (been out of the retail sector of IT for 4years now :p)

    but i was thinking of something like this http://www.shopbot.com.au/pp-asus-v2-ah2-price-25105.html

    I guess they just dont make as many anymore.


    only ones i can find are the "Shuttle" brand ( they make the cube computers)

    I feel obsoleate now....
     
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    Black Caviar 2 TB FTW!.