I only play 1player battledome on my strongest pet. Should I get him defense? He has like 70 hp 70 str but only 20 defense, and I was wondering if I should get any before training goes through the roof
Is he a lab rat? If he is, defense tends towards a downward trend, so it might just be a waste of money. Defense is a great thing, but there are some pretty powerful lab rats out there, with a lot of health and strength. As long as you have good weapons, it won't matter so much. If he isn't a lab rat, and you plan to train his stats into the hundreds, then defense is a good investment for the long run.
yes, i'm using the lab on him right now. i guess i'll just save the training school for leveling, str, and hp
20 defense is god awful...I am personally against the whole lab ray thing as long as you have enough money to do regular training. Nobody really follows my philosophy of training everything equally though...especially when it comes to agility. Defense can be really helpful, in both 1p and 2p. In fact, since you do mainly 1p, you will know the opponents weps and good defense will really help in that you can more effectively use weps that both attack and defend, etc...I dunno, I'd train
Heh yeah. Defense is one of the essentials. Unless you have really good defensive weapon though. Are you going to stop labbing it soon? What level is it? Since the lab doesn't really get far with pet levels. The only thing that doesn't really matter is speed I suppose. For me I trained my old pets evenly in stats so HP, def, str and stuff are the same. Not to mention you should keep it at lv 19 or something if you were to train it until you can't train stats anymore. Once it reaches lv 20 it'll be 2 codestones each training session x_x
it's too late for that. i'm already nearing level 40 [...] why should i stop labbing? the HP/str i get from it is just so good to pass up on. what does defense do anyways? i'm currently using sophies magic hat, but eventually i'll get ghostkershield. will ghostkershield be significantly more effective with good defense?
Defense..if someone hits you it takes off less if you have more. Also..training def. is bad while you are labbing because the lab decreases def. quite often, that is why lab rats don't have really high def, but high everything else. So if you train def, you might lose it the next day at the lab.
in 1p battle the only defense you need is burrow/sink. What happens in 1p battles is the opponent's strength gets high enough after awhile that your defense doesn't do anything. Don't waste resources on training defense if you're only going to do 1p. Trust me, I did nothing but battle for 5 years, I had a 2k stats pet.
alright cool. how do you stay alive for turns after your downsize, burrow, and sink are done? is your shield still effective without the defense?
Your shield will work, but just not as good with defense boosts. http://idb.finalhit.org/beginners/aPID/4 Here's a guide explaining defense. You could spend money on a full blocker, like thick smoke bomb, but they're only one use. So it's up to you.
thick smoke bomb is a waste of money imo. i'm only 1P battling so I'm not really looking for some big battes where its very important to win
Don't bother with that. In 1p, you know what your opponent is using. Use a 50% reflector for their big weapon that deals a certain type of icons. Basically though, 1p battles rarely last beyond a few turns. It generally goes: You use sink/burrow, 100% freezer and any weapon, they give you a bit of damage that goes through your burrow/sink. You Berzerk, use your bomb and best constant. You burrow/sink (whichever you didn't use before), use your two constants. At that point, the opponent should be dead. If not, you're probably screwed the next turn anyways. You might be able to squeak out another attack if you're lucky. 1p opponents rarely defend or block at all, you should be able to do what I said above.
what about after you start beating that opponent 100+ times? don't turns usually last longer than that?
Um...what? So, the real advantage of defense is the ability to use dual duties or other weps that defend only limited numbers of icons instead of all of certain icon types...high defense will help you block more icons, no matter the opponent's attack strength...follow Commy's link and it explains it pretty well. As I said in my last post: dual duty weps can help a lot in 1p...of course, if you are extremely rich, then it pays to just buy ridiculously powerful weps and overpower your opponent...but I assumed that this wasn't the case. Yes...I have no idea what Hally is talking about...maybe he was joking?...:/ The turns following the first couple turns are the exciting ones that make 1p BD matches fun and challenging...lots of strategy and such *shrug* maybe that's just me...