What kind of Car?

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  1. sorrowniteshade

    sorrowniteshade Level I

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    Okay, so, i have quite a bit of money to spend on a car,

    Now the big question is, What Kind of Car Should I Buy??

    I have 3 Cars That i can get, And i can't make up my mind.
    So i'm trusting you guys to pick my car. :)

    1. A Tuner
    2003 Honda Civic,
    Has Body kit, 5 speed, Vtec, Electric Turbo, and a B18.A1 Integra engine, And Has a dark red paint to it.

    2. Muscle
    A 87 Mustang, V8, Tuned for a Drag car, FAST, (Bunch of aftermarcket parts, dont wanna list em all. 5 Speed. Kinda beat up, No paint, it's primered.

    3. 2006 Tiburon
    Has body kit, 5 speed, custom interior, Custom Paint To match. Beautiful exhaust sound. Turbo.

    The mustang is if you guys think i should invest in it, to be a fast street legal car. :)

    Post reasons and why. :)
     
  2. synthetic

    synthetic Level III

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    personally I don't like any of these cars at all.. if you have some money get something classier.. LOL
    don't take this the wrong way or anything..

    but if I had to choose between those 3 I'd probably go with the mustang or tiburon; probably mustang
    .. its old school, you can paint it whatever colour you want, V8 engine
     
  3. sorrowniteshade

    sorrowniteshade Level I

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    Yes about the mustang, but the B18.A1 is a very fast engine for little cars, and with the electric turbo, then it's just as fast.

    And, the mustang need repairing, so idk. but

    Mustang-1
    Civic-0
    Tibi-0
     
  4. lolcow

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    Ricer = lololololllllll
    Mustang = acceptable
    Tiburon = ugly
     
  5. Heather

    Heather Level IV

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    If you have enough money to invest in the Mustang, because older cars usually require more upkeep, then I'd say that'd be my choice out of the three :D
     
  6. Rise and Fall

    Rise and Fall Level IV

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    agree with this, the mustang is sweet if ur willing to do what it takes

    otherwise the tibouron, its a nice car, although a friend of mine who drives one has told me its kinda slow
     
  7. GrapeFruit

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    Meh it really depends on if you plan on doing some work yourself because if you are, you can get a nice 5.0 fox body mustang for cheap and just buy bolt-on upgrades to make it as fast or faster than the cars listed. I'm assuming though that you have around 7k+ to spend since I haven't seen an V-Tech'ed Civic go for less than that. If you're not really into tinkering with your car go with the Civic because it's cheap to take in to fix and there are so many parts available for it. Also sounds like the engines were swapped in the civic if that's the case I'd take it in to a shop and have them examine it to make sure everything was done properly, it'll cost like $50-100 but it's worth it to check. Don't go for the Tiburon, I don't know how fast they can get BUT it's a hyundai anything made from them is bound to be cheaply made and really heavy(no offense to any hyundai owners).
     
  8. Will

    Will Level IV

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    You don't want to be a ricer - stay away from the Jap crap.

    '87 Mustangs were extremely ugly from memory.. but that's the most acceptable ride, because it has a V8.
     
  9. sorrowniteshade

    sorrowniteshade Level I

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    Yeah, and i have approx 9500. to spend, and am able to fix cars. it was just a decision i couldn't decide on.civic has vtex, and b18.A1 Engine which is a fast engine. electric turbo.
    It just gets me, i mean, it has performance already, i just need new body style an what not, and they have so many things that can be done with it.

    And the mustang is really kinda beat up, post pic as soon as i can.
    And i just always wanted to make a car do a wheelie, so this would be the car for it :)

    So it seems everyone is going for the mustang then?
     
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    I just think the other 2 are really ugly anyways. but yeah post a pic of the stang
     
  11. GrapeFruit

    GrapeFruit Level IV

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    Well I'm not really for 'that' mustang as much as I am for older mustangs in general. You should check out craigslist for your local area and see if you'd be able to snag a fox body 5.0 for 4 or less and just add the ups yourself. With the extra 5 gs you'll make a really decent mustang and you'll have built it yourself. I have a friend who did that, he out about 10 grand into it and he runs 10-11s
     
  12. Will

    Will Level IV

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    I'm not too savvy with how much cars cost in the US, but the Civic sounds like junk. From memory, the B18A1 isn't a VTEC engine. It was the crappy non-VTEC engine that they put in the Integra. Also, given that it has a replaced engine and a turbo, I'm going to go right out and say that that engine is thrashed. You'll probably have to replace it within a year. And it isn't a fast engine, by any means. It's a 1.8.. probably about 120-150 HP, plus a turbo, so let's say 200 HP tops. Keep in mind, that's 15 years old. And probably not well looked after, so it will be missing quite a lot of that HP.

    The Mustang also sounds like junk.. why the hell would you need a street car to be tuned to drag? (I'm not sure how it's tuned, but I know all of our rally cars have been spoon chipped to around 13000 rpm, and I wouldn't even consider driving those on the road).

    You may as well buy a Shelby GT350 replica, and put a Nissan 180/200 SX engine in it. The fiberglass body will be extremely light, and the engine should provide enough power to outpace any stock car on the road. And, being a Nissan engine, you can tune that however the hell you like. I'm assuming your 'fix it' knowledge should give you enough knowledge to do something like that..
     
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    GrapeFruit Level IV

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    Hot damn that sounds like a sexy machine
     
  14. Will

    Will Level IV

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    It's what I'm building at the moment.. but replace the Nissan engine with a mustang engine.

    You can also buy kits that make the exhaust note sound like a genuine GT350, or a Pagani Zonda. Whatever you want.. if you don't like what imports sound like.


    EDIT: And I also imagine you can buy a beast of a Camaro Z28 in America for US$9500. We can buy decent ones in Australia for about that much, and keep in mind we have ridiculous taxes and import costs. A huge exhaust on one of them would turn more heads than some ricer Civic.
     
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    GrapeFruit Level IV

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    Marry me? J/K what engine you putting in?
     
  16. Will

    Will Level IV

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    I haven't bought one yet, because I've had a fair bit on in my life.. but it'll either be a genuine GT500 engine or a '65 mustang engine. I'm also tempted by the '69 Mach 1 engine because they sounded very nice. It kind of depends on the cost.. GT500 is obviously the top preference :p

    A friend of mine, down the road from our place, has a '66 Shelby Cobra (replica I think, because of the stuff I'm about to say), with a proper Cobra engine.. converted to run on jet fuel. It's freakish.. and I doubt anyone would do that to a genuine Cobra :$
     
  17. Will

    Will Level IV

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    And here's something else I think warrants a new (and double) post.

    The real world isn't like the Fast and the Furious. If you buy a drag-tuned Mustang for street use, you will die. You will wrap it around a power pole and die. Normal people (ie. not in movies) generally cannot survive a crash where the car rolls several times. Also, normal people get speeding fines. And I'm guessing the $9500 is most, if not all, of your savings at the moment. If you buy a fast car, you'll probably need to budget at least $500 a month out for speeding fines.

    Normal people don't shit where they eat. I've been rallying for most of my life - co-driving until I was 18, and then driving from that. Our rally cars are taken on trailers, not driven on the road, and they are certainly not my daily drive. Why? Because most aftermarket, performance, and especially racing and drag modifications are not built to last. What-so-ever. They're put in so you can change gears 0.08 seconds faster in a race situation, where it is necessary to do so. And they're built to last that race, and the race after that. Performance parts are very much the same, but they will last longer - but they will break A LOT quicker than stock equipment.

    If you really want to drive cars fast, buy a crap car for the road. I've been driving a 1994 Saab 900 S V6 since I was 18 (and, of course, building my project car).. it has a 3" muffler on the rear, but is stock everywhere else. It'll to 100 in about 7.5s, and puts out about 155 kW. And it was cheap as chips. Then what you do is buy a proper race car - or save up for one. Take it to tracks, track days, races, whatever you want - thrash it. Heaps of fun, and it is generally quite safe to race on tracks if you don't get too overconfident. You can pick up a decent hatchback rally car for probably $7500 - race suspension, thin knobbly tyres, bucket seats, roll cage, spoon chipped and tuned engine, etc, etc (and you don't even need to take that to a track - just thrash it round a field to practice).

    What isn't safe is buying a very overpowered car for the road, and you know the type: aftermarket mods everywhere, generally a bodykit, sometimes neons, whatever. Because when you do that, you'll either kill yourself, ding your car very badly, or get charged with Manslaughter when you lose control, or when something breaks, and career into a bystander.

    But, yeah, that's just my two cents v3.
     
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    It'd also be good to mention depending on where you live, if you get caught with certain modifications to your car the authorities can impound your car on the spot. They also won't let you take the car home, unless you take it to a state sanctioned mechanic to take the parts off and install legal parts and it cost bukoo bucks (happened to a friend of mine). And really the question you should ask yourself is what do you want/need out of the car that'll help make your decision a little easier.
     
  19. sorrowniteshade

    sorrowniteshade Level I

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    Well first off, i have a car i drive now.

    This is just for a project car.
    And i'm not just going for speed either. For if i was, mustang would win hands down.
    I just know that i can make a tiburon a nice looking car, and could possibly trade if for another car in the future. As for the civic.
    And no, the money is not the only money i have atm, it's just a limit i'm spending on a project car.
    :)
     
  20. Will

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    Okay, let me collect the facts:
    -Project car
    -Not for speed
    -For investing time
    -Possibly trading later (or for an investment)
    -Mechanical skills
    -Money to spend on top of budget

    If that's correct, then you should build, or restore a muscle car. An import will only aim to make you look like a wanker, and, unless you get into street racing or "cruising", really won't put a smile on your face (unless you can sit on a beach chair, and stare at your candy-painted import with a smile on your face. Ew.).

    Muscle cars are an international symbol of masculinity and awesomeness. Having said that, only the old muscle cars are really worth buying as an investment, as the new(er) ones (let's say 1980-current as a sweeping generalization) aren't really investment-worthy.

    Looks and engine-wise, I'd look for this:
    - '69-71 Mustang Mach 1
    - '65-67 Mustang (Shelby GT350 replicas are always nice, as mentioned before)
    - '66 Shelby Cobra replica .. buying a genuine one would be ridiculously expensive
    - '68-70 Dodge Charger (again, no idea about prices in America - I'm guessing they're considerably cheaper than the AU$40k price tag in Australia..)
    - '67-70 Plymouth Barracuda/Cuda
    - '70 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
    - '67-69 Chevrolet Camaro (SS is always nice)

    And I'm relatively tired, so the list will have to end there.. but I'm sure you'd be able to pick one of those up (running) in your price range. And, of course, doing it up and fixing the faults is all part of the fun :D
     
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