Your opinion on Arabs (and Muslims)

I'm just interested to see the general feelings that people have about arabs and muslims.


[edit] i deleted the generalization about the states...i dont actually think that, i was just trying to create discussion

 

Why, are you an arab/muslim? xD That's a generalization, I'd say. Amerika is pretty paranoid since 9/11 and all that crap. I dunno, I have never in my life been interested in politics. So, I've never watched the news to find out why I should be angry at them, and as a result I'm not.

 

I hate sounding racist and all - but I must admit, I take my distances from muslims. Basically because of their totally different culture. I mean, sometimes when I go clubbing, and on the way home - it's always some foreigners (yeah, I know they're not all muslims!) that approach me in an unapproriate way. And I believe it's because that they - in their culture - cover up their girls, and when they then see a girl that is very "uncovered" (lol I know) in her clothing, then they feel like they can have her. I'm not sayin that it's all the people, but I just noticed that it's not the Danish guys that does that - I know, Danish guys can be like that too, but in a more .. nicer way. They seem to confront girls on the streets more than danish guys do, and it's just from what I've experienced here. And I tend to believe it's because of the cultural differences.
That being said, I have no problem at all with muslims/arabs that adjusts to the way the culture is, where they are living. I mean, I really want them to respect our cultur, if they want us to respect them.

I dont know if you were talking about terror and stuff, because you didnt really clear that up - but here's my opinion. And it's something that is being discussed all the time in our country, and we do have some very racist people in our government that want them out. But I dont want that at all, I believe in socializing them with us. it's just hard if they don'tt want to..

 

i get what you say about the guys approaching a girl that's 'uncovered' because where they're from if a girl dresses revealingly that means she's a slut so maybe they don't register the difference. so i get what you mean there.

why do they have to adjust to the way the culture is where they are living. just because they live somewhere different doesn't mean that they have to change what they believe in. it's not like their culture tells them to bother girls. that isn't the issue. also, what part of your culture aren't they respecting?
and, a lot of guys are rude to girls, especially when you're out clubbing, that is definitely not specified to any certain ethnicity.

socialize with you doing what exactly? like be more friendly?

 

Okay, that may have sounded different that what I meant? But what I mean is, that a lot of fugetives come to our country for asylium - and here we give them like a lot of money and help them out. It's our tax money that goes to this, and believe me - it's a looot of money (we pay like 70% of our salery in taxes).
SO, it's not because I think it's wrong thatwe help them out - not at all. it's just that since we help them out, they can at least learn our language - or try to - and respect some of our believes and stuff. I don't mean that they should turn to christianity or anything, but we just see a lot of them not wanting to work because they can live off the support the government is giving them, not wanting to learn our language, so they can't even talk to any of us - it's like they are alienating themselves from us, not wanting anything to do with us, when it's our country they're living in. Also, 20% of crimes in Denmark are by foreigners. It's just very sad.
AND PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't think this is the opinion on all the foreigners I have. Please. Because it's not how I think, it's just the people I catogorize as "the ones that won't respect our culture". I hope you get it right, because racism is so far from what I believe in.

Nah, it's a Danish word I thought I could translate. I obviously couldn't. I know what socializing means - but I was thinking more in the lines of making them familiar with our country and learn our traditions - not follow them, just be aware that we have them.

 

i dont really know the situation in denmark about income tax and asylum and welfare so i can't really comment on that. but the people who immigrated for their job or something, where they actually get danish citizenship, they don't owe you anything. maybe it would be good for them to learn your language but they don't have to. all that time and effort and they don't gain very much. also, i don't really know what traditions danish people have but usually, a country doesn't have that many traditions, people have traditions based on what religion they are. but correct me if i'm wrong.

 

Uh, you don't think they owe us anything? It's not like it's our fault they're in that situation, and yes - I know it's not theirs either. But when we help them out, they do owe us something. If they want to be here, they must respect how we live. I really feel that is necessary, otherwise they can just act like they want to in their culture. For example, we've had circumcissions which are illegal here, forced marriages and stuff - and if they can't aknowledge our laws then they shouldn't be here. They have to follow our laws just as we do.

 

i wasnt talking about the people who come to denmark seeking asylum. i very much doubt that that is the majority of immigrants. i was saying that the people who simply immigrate for a job or something. what do they owe you.

also about the things that are illegal, definitely i think you have to follow the laws of whatever country your in but who are you to tell them that arranged marriages are wrong. thats their culture. you just don't understand it. and arranged marriages are illegal in denmark?

 

Yeah, arranged marriage is illegal - therefore I can tell them not to do it xD
Oh, and sorry, I misunderstood. but yes, the majority are coming for asylum - I would say almost everyone..

 

why would arranged marriage be illegal? millions of people do it around the world, not only arabs.

 

Well, I did start out by saying forced marriages - and yes, they are illegal. As far as arranged marriages goes, I guess they aren't as long as both parties accept it.
But forced marriages are illegal as they break the human rights. In the human rights it says something about marriages has to be accepted by both the man and the woman, otherwise it's breaking the rights..

 

don't really like the majority of them
reason? not sure.. I'm a traditional italian (that means we hate everyone who isn't italian) so go figure!

 

i'm jewish, and tbh i don't really hate arabs/muslims, but i don't know, i guess the reality we live in makes it hard to.. like them? i don't really have a problem with any of them, but i don't think i've ever met anyone or talked to an arab

 

One of my best friends is Muslim. And Arabs and Muslims are no where near the same thing. My Muslim friend is Sudanese; she says that the Muslims as a whole consider the Arabs the "scum" of their culture since they're generally the most crass, rude, judgmental, etc. (And she says Arabs always drive every where way too fast, but are still late. XD)

Anyways. What is there to say on this? They have their culture and religion, as do every group of peoples in existence. Respect each other. Islam is one of the most tolerant religions there is; the mainstream media simply capitalizes on the extremists groups there are. It's like how in Mean Girls high school is all about the drama in everything, even though the main char. is in calc, etc., but in reality there's nowhere near enough time for that. (Though maybe that's just me.)

And apologizes to Freja or anyone else non-US, since that probably doesn't apply. :x

 

Anfan; I do agree, the media is very much to blame. I mean, they always talk bad about them here, but it's just that I know a lot of the young muslims too, but I never interact with them because I dont like them. Of course, it's just the ones in my area, so I can't speak for the majority, so you're right

 

Yeah, the media does portray Arabs (Muslims) in a bad light, and it is true that SOME are bad, but NOT ALL of them are. In fact MOST of them aren't. lol ^_^

 

ummmm...scum?? maybe just in sudan? not really sure about that. if they say that wouldn't that make them judgmental. hypocritical? i think so.

 

Well, I've got no problems with them. xD

Yeah, I think most people dislike Arabs or Muslims because of the way media portray them.

 

I, myself, am muslim and my parents were born in Morocco.
I don't know whether that would make them Arab or not.
I have no problems with any other culture or mine.

I do have a problem to people who are saying they are "representing" a culture. While they are trying to ruin it.
I mean just look at the obvious. O. binnladen (or how you write his name) says he is a muslim, while he is not.
If he were, he wouldn't be out killing people. The biggest sin is to kill an other human being. I think they like to act on a certain believe so they can do whatever they like.

For example the suicide bombers, are such an ugrgh. i dont even have a word for it.
Just go to an island and then go kill yourself.
why take me with you if you feel depressed?

Ew i will stop ranting haha. just to sum things up. Everyone should just go with the flow. it's not like you will live again.
Live life to the fullest. and stop looking at the time and other people.