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Discussion in 'Neopets Chit-Chat' started by Jaggerrr, Mar 17, 2007.

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  1. Jaggerrr

    Jaggerrr Level IV

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    It was my idea and i cant even view the topic :(

    EDIT - BTW i've got a fair few plushies now too
     
  2. alex123kill

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    Tarla gave away a treasure map and a secret lab map peice. Those are great investments. I bought a few of the T map for 10k, its not up to 13k :D
     
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    Jaggerrr Level IV

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    Not all items can be inflated as well as others, usuki's for example have no real purpose and maybe thats why they lost 95% of there price in such a short time?
     
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    Tarla struck :p ...that's why they're so low...
     
  6. Jaggerrr

    Jaggerrr Level IV

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    Ahhh.. well still the lowest is like 1,800 and the highest on the same page is 3,000. Have a look at the plushie and see why it looks better
     
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    i bought like 2 plushies haha i got bored nd started playing with them hehe
     
  8. deathcraze

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    wish id seen this topic earlier.

    tarla plushies are baaaaaddd investments.

    the only thing good to hoard from her are insanely ets items like maps and dubloons. stamps too, but not books.
     
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    why are they so baaaaaddd deathcraze?
    please explain
     
  10. deathcraze

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    basic economics.

    very high supply + very low demand = price practically doesnt move.

    the only thing driving up the prices of these are from hoarders. not from real demand. previously, hoarders were very interested in tarla items, within the day or two that the item was given out, they would buy them like crazy, causing prices to shoot up. hence the illusion that they are good investments. but as time passes, the hoarders get sick of the stagnant prices, and figure they might as well get back what they paid.. they sell hundreds at once. the price crashes.

    i have analysed tarla item prices in the past.. i find that the maps/100 dubloons are best to hoard because there is nearly infinite demand, unlike the plushies/furniture which have very limited demand.

    stamps are second best to hoard.. they are less targeted by hoarders, because it is assumed that they are hts.. yet they seem to have a steady demand. stamp prices seem to reach their lowest point around 4-5 days after release (after the hoarders have finished).

    in general, tarla items are unsteady for first few days. i would recommend not to buy any plushie unless under 1k. (depends on situation)
    but when theres some hoarder making a profit on hts items, there will be one making a loss. better to invest the nps somewhere else, like the stockmarket.. higher returns and much less risky :D
     
  11. Tricia

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    That's not basic economics :p. Basic economics implies that if you decrease supply, value will rise. Demand will remain unaffected in the most part. The plushie will be in the same demand as any other plushie of the same rarity if we can bring the supply down. That's all there is to it.

    When you say things like "tarla plushies are baaaaaddd investments" you are not talking about economics as economics does not have any exceptions to particular items. All economic rules apply to all items in the Neopian economy, provided that they have a use.
     
  12. marlene

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    Excellent point deathcraze, but you forgot one thing all the examples you gave have.... and that's the fact they are consumables.

    Once you use a map... it's gone. Once you put a stamp into your album... it's gone. The same can be said for codestones, dubloons, neggs, paintbrushes, etc

    Before I got out of maps, I used to be a major dealer, and it wasn't unusual for me to have hundreds of maps in my sdb.

    When I left neopets a few years ago, i had hundreds of lab maps bought for less than 20k a piece. This was back in the day of the 8K-15k lab map. Now look at their prices.

    Not only that, but neopets dropped off from their original popularity so supply was reduced, thus increasing their value as there were fewer random events.

    I don't think I'd do the same today as the prices seem to be dropping on certain maps, but the fact remains... the best items to buy are always consumables.
     
  13. deathcraze

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    :shock: uh.. alright then i guess.. sorry.. even though i didnt understand half of what you just said :p

    problem is there are thousands of those items released.. would take 20mil+ to increase them back to pre-tarla price. then you would be stuck with thousands of plushies which will take forever to sell.
    so does economic rules apply to plushies? there isnt exactly a use for them...

    ..which tarla plushies arent. :p

    but i dont know, there seems to be some kind of hoarder psychology involved.. books should be in higher demand than stamps, yet the price of the tarlaed books rises slower than stamps. they are both consumables. ;)
     
  14. Tricia

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    Well, plushies have a use and do rip after you have played with them for a bit so they are consumable to an extent. They will just take a longer period of time to sell, so as long as you aren't looking for a super quick way of making your neopoints, you're pretty safe :)

    And as for taking 20 mill+... These plushies were selling for 1,500NP yesterday. Today they are going for between 10k and 15k ;). We aren't looking for huge profits, just significant ones.

    Also, Ubor just took 150 out of the economy for us, accidentally, by getting frozen :shock:
     
  15. dadababa

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    i wouldnt say threre consumable because they can be fixed if they get ripped
     
  16. deathcraze

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    very very few plushies actually do rip, due to tnt's laziness to create ripped versions. only the toys from the very early days of neopets rip. :p if they do, they can be fixed anyway. :p

    10-15k? thats.. absolutely insane. :shock: tell me if anyone actually manages to sell one at that price to a non-hoarder.
     
  17. chelsea1

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    i m not saying i am a economics genious or anything
    but surely in your example the price will go down so people can sell them
     
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