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Discussion in 'Computers and Technology' started by Smirnoff, Jun 20, 2009.

  1. Smirnoff

    Smirnoff Level IV

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    Ok, so these prices are in USD.
    CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 940 Deneb 3.0GHz Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core // $210
    RAM: G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 // $60
    Mobo: GIGABYTE GA-MA790X-UD4P AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 790X ATX AMD // $110
    HDD: Western Digital Caviar Black WD5001AALS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA // $70
    GPU: SAPPHIRE 100259-1GL Radeon HD 4870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 // $180

    I didn't chose a case or PSU. Simply because you can do this yourself. The Raedon 4870 is a very long card though so you will require a somewhat deep case Antec do high quality, low budget cases. I'd recommend getting one somewhere in the price range of $70. A ~550W PSU would be all you need also; you could pick up one for around $75 depending on the supplier.

    Total price (depending on who you get the case/psu with) should be $770 USD (£460). As I said before Europe have great electronic retailers and you could probably actually pick up all these pieces for around 10% cheaper then the above prices.

    Now this was just a build on the fly by the way. You said you didn't want it for heavy gaming so I went with a Quad Core and 4GB of 1066 RAM to enable you to comfortably multitask (listen to music / browse the net / have MSN/Gtalk cracking / be installing something in the background) with no obvious lag or obvious slowing down of the system. The 4870 though is a very very reputable gfx card (sort of like the 9800GT, 18 months ago) and with the CPU/RAM you will be able to play pretty much any game out today on high settings.

    Now I wasn't sure if you already have an OS (Ie. Vista, XP) but you will require a 64 bit OS. 64 Bit Vista would set you back around £70 I believe, and I'm not sure how much Windows 7 is going to cost when it comes out, you might wanna wait and see since Windows 7 is apparently the bee's knees of OS's.
     
  2. Smirnoff

    Smirnoff Level IV

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    I don't think he was saying he can get Newegg to ship, I think he was saying he can get the parts from other online retailers who ship to Italy.

    And like I said before, Europe (and thus Italy as it's part of the EU) have very close, if not better, prices then those I'm sourcing off Newegg. Newegg isn't even the cheapest in America, I just use it as a reference point as it is the largest online retailer of computer components and have a nice selection of parts and a good layout.

    At ricky, it's about 3AM where I live so I'll try and get your computer done tomorrow.
     
  3. CoS

    CoS Level IV

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    That all sounds very good but for a complete computer n00b would i be able to install all this??
    And i dont think i would really be aloud as its the family pc so maybe starting from scratch and just buying a pc instead?
    Sorry if i wasted your time by not making my question clear enough :(
     
  4. Smirnoff

    Smirnoff Level IV

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    starting from scratch and buying a PC don't work in the same sentence :p

    Installing your own PC is incredibly simple. Difficulties arise normally only if your system requires cooling (which yours would not) After you've linked everything together you really only have 2 things to do:
    1) Install the OS
    2) Download drivers for all the components from their respective websites.

    BTW, nah not too much a waste of time. I had nothing better to do.
     
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  5. CoS

    CoS Level IV

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    OK thanks very much then :) might look at this in a bit and see if i could do it :)

    PLus rep cos i think i wasted ur time and it was good info
     
  6. Hally

    Hally Level IV

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    If you're looking for a Case/PSU combo, Antec Sonata (or any variation) is pretty awesome. It's a high quality case, the Sonata III has an eSata port on the front (eSata is basically a way to connect a new-generation External hard drive to your computer without bottlenecking it through USB. You get the same transfer speeds as a hard drive attached inside), and the power supply (Antec Earthwatts) is a great unit.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6811129024

    Look for sales. I've seen them dip as low as 60 USD.


    Ricky, what kind of gaming are you doing? I wouldn't worry about CrossfireX/SLI unless you're hardcore. A single GTX260/Radeon 4870 can pretty well run any mainstream game decently well. And those cards you can get for less than 150USD if you know what deals to look for.
     
  7. Smirnoff

    Smirnoff Level IV

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    I deliberately didn't chose sale items since they are hard to replicate on a day to day basis.

    Regarding Cross/Sli, I agree. Unless you really want some high AA filtering and 60 FPS on highest possible Crysis settings then it isn't worth it for the price it entails (More GPUs = More powerful PSU, extra cooling, fans, headsinks, possibly liquid coolant, more expensive mobo, bigger case etc. etc.) I find it's just better to get a high end single card. But for the record Ricky if you are interested I'd probably go with 2 4830's in SLI.
     
  8. WildSnorlax

    WildSnorlax Level IV

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    Ok i'm looking to build my own PC soon, and I was wondering, how many parts are there, down to the SMALLEST things?
    Of course there are main stuff like HD, RAM, and stuff, but what about cords, and stuff? I know very little about it, so I want to know everything I possibly need to buy.
     
  9. Cacklenub

    Cacklenub Level IV

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    Okay, I've been thinking of building a computer for a bit now.

    I use my computer for almost everything...instant messaging, gaming, hosting game servers, graphics, internet, etc.

    Build me a (virtual) comp from scratch...want to see about how much it is.

    Be sure to include a good video card...whatever I have now gives me 5 fps in cs:s. :( :( :( :(

    I may just buy a separate video card, don't know if I can do that or not.
     
  10. Jubixion

    Jubixion Level II

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    I was just wondering, even if you put in 4gb ram into a cpu that runs vista, not all the ram would be used right? So I guess 4gb ram is just a waste of money or does the computer use all the memory?
     
  11. Smirnoff

    Smirnoff Level IV

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    Operating systems come in generally 2 forms, 32 bit and 64 bit. A 32 bit Operating system (Of say XP or Vista) can run 3 GB's of ram. In order to utilise 4GB's or more of ram a 64 bit Operating System is required (it generally costs about $50 more then the 32 bit version) A 64 bit Operating System will be able to handle 16 exabytes of RAM, that is trillions of times more then the current amount of Ram we us :p
     
  12. Smirnoff

    Smirnoff Level IV

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    All suppliers SHOULD include all required cables, ties or equipment required to connect the system together.

    If you were to buy a Sata HDD you would receive the sata connector cable (to connect the HDD to the Mobo) you wouldn't however receive the power cable as that would be inclusive in the PSU instead.

    Essentially all the major components you buy will have with them all the minor components. Extra things in real life you might need are things like static resistant gloves (If you are super careful), maybe a small screwdriver for connecting any fans or coolants to the external case plate etc. Most of these things you'd already have around the house though.

    Good luck :)
     
  13. Smirnoff

    Smirnoff Level IV

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    Ok, from the sounds of things you're going to want an I7 processor (for the cache), 6 GB's of DDR3 (Go with DDR2 for the price save). You'll want a pretty high end Mobo to handle the I7 and DDR3 plus the GFX card (4870) and as a result you'd want a pretty reputable PSU also. I just built this in a couple of minutes with what you wanted in mind. I really need more from you though such as:
    Price range
    A single card or do you want SLI/Crossfire
    [​IMG]
    This system would let you play on the highest setting in literally any game on the market and within the next 18 months besides a few notable ones (ie. Crysis, it requires 3 4870's in Crossfire to max out 60 FPS) I included an I7/6GB of DDR3 since they compliment each other very well and if you are hosting gaming servers locally these are the resources that are going to be taxed the most.

    As I said I'll alter the design based upon your feedback. Maybe Hallen will help out and nit pick also :p
     
  14. Jubixion

    Jubixion Level II

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    So there's practically no use for the last gb of ram if I had a 4gb ram in my 32 bit vista cpu?
     
  15. Milanos

    Milanos Level IV

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    No, we don't yet. And thanks for the guide :)