Ive heard directly from the text of TNT how they bust the accounts autobuyers transfer to, sellers, and just cheaters in general. TNT monitors certain items, this is a proven fact. SOS, PCC, TT, Gsword... Basically any ETS extremely expensive items, and typically people who need to transfer lotsa nps run for big ets to do it, but odds are you could be risking a massive amount of neopoints. Self freezing always seems smart, but doesnt always work. Yes it throws TNT off your trail, but if they decide to really look into it, they can clearly see what you have done. So now lets get into different transfer methods (Keep in mind these all assume that the two accounts are on different IP addresses) 1. Send to NF: This is a good method of transfer, relatively safe, and even good when transferring extremely rare items. Some people see it as an obvious transfer method which will obviously get you caught, and this is half true. If you want to avoid ice, make it look real! Volley a neomail or two between the accounts making it seem like a friend giving a gift, Say Hey dude! this is for ur gallery!...Yes, TNT will check the history btw the two accounts, and you could be saved by these neomails. 2. Trades: This can be an okay method of transfer, but really is difficult considering the 800k limit put on the trades is now a pretty bad trade method. If you need to transfer a single item it can be somewhat useful, but TNT can spot a junk trade for a tower item and could detect and freeze you, and I dont really know any way to make this seem legit, b/c if it actually was a gift btw 2 legit accounts, they wouldn't do it through trades, theyd just send the NF.... So i do not recommend this method except with trades worth less than 1-2m. 3. Auctions: Id say this is the WORST way to transfer. This is the ONLY method Ive ever been frozen using. I wanted to transfer 2m into an acct and just bought junk for 2m and was frozen b4 the auctions ended! The only time I would ever recommend use of the auctions is when you wanna get millions of pure for some tower item, OR if you wanna transfer a relatively expensive item you can set up a NF only trade and get it done, but as for Np transfer, NEVER use the auctions. 4. Shop: Id say the shop is the best way to transfer items, and a great way to transfer smaller amounts of neopoints. Due to the 99k limit, TNT assumes that cheaters wouldnt have the pacience to set up 30 items and then buy them all up for 99k, and that is exactly why it is a great method. If you want to transfer an item, just have your friend chill at his computer and buy up the item as soon as you put it in. Dont worry, you wont accidentally lose it to a lucky newb that happened to be searching for ur item at that very moment, that will never happen if you have a friend waiting in the shop. Hey me and Billy transferred an item worth over 15m through the shops... Ok and as for NPs.. I wudent really know if its unsafe to buy 100 junk items for 99k to transfer over 9.9 million... but Id say its an awesome way to transfer 1-3m by buying an item 30 times. Im guessing TNT might be able to trace this if they look into it, so This might not be totally safe if your account has been involved in some really serious cheating, but if the accounts are probably clean otherwise this is a smart way to transfer. 5. I owe this method to derrick viewtopic.php?p=208484#p208484 who suggested it: Buy an ETS petpet, maybe a meoclops or something, Equip it to a fugly pet with a name like ASDDSF___DSFSD___UGLY_kasdk__YUKALU the Ogrin and pound it. Log into your Main and snatch up that pet, and the petpet will be attached... This a probably an awesome np transfer method as Im guessing its 100% undetectable. Thanks derrick! 6. Combining/using more then 2 accts: This has gotta be the safest way. Here I'll tell you what you should combine: For an item: - have the middle account get the item from the original account by the give to NF, and then have the 3rd and final account buy the item from the middle accounts shop. For Nps: - Have the original account buy many items from the middle accounts shop for 99999nps. Then once youve got all the nps ther, buy a tower item and send that to NF, OR auction it NF. ------All this takes alot of work and proxy use, see marlene's proxy guide for that kinda help. Lastly, Ill let you guys in on a CRAZY secret. This is the KEY way to transfer with 0 chance of losing the items: -Ok, so youve just autobought a 10m item and are freaking out at losing it. Heres wat to do: Make a new acct on a different IP and send the item to that acct thru the send to a neofriend option. DO NOT claim the item on the new acct. Wait and see if the original account gets frozen, and if it is, NOW you go into the new account and claim the item!!!!!!!! Its a prefect plan, b/c even if your original account is frozen, you can still claim the item that has been given to you! If you havn't yet accepted the item on the new acct, its likely that TNT won't even look at this account at all (b/c its on a separate IP!). Yes i have tested this method, and if the original account is frozen you definately can claim the item on the other account, so dont tell me this wouldn't work. If it just so happens that this is what you do and successfully pick up the item on the new account, id suggest doing the same thing once again just in case the new account happens to get iced. :yup: GOOD LUCK transferring with these methods, just play it cool and most of the time you wont be frozen. :yup:
Wow. I'd always thought that items still in the process of being transfered went poof when the account got iced. Thanks for the tip. +25 cash
Yup i tested it by transferring a crap item outta a newb acct, self freezing, then attempting to collect the item 24hrs later on the account i sent it to, and although the original account had been self froze for that amount of time, the item was still available. Ive never tested it with an actual TNT freeze cuz im rarely frozen , but it should work the same cuz a self frozen acct is just as frozen as a TNT frozen acct. Keep in mind that you must claim the item by 48hrs otherwise it will be returned to the original account as unclaimed and left to rot in iceland forever.
Never thought that would actually work, i thought it gets deleted when you get iced. anyway nice guide.
Im going to make another guide for successfully buying/selling nps that will go along with this transferring guide...
Im going to make another guide for successfully buying/selling nps that will go along with this transferring guide... Cool, i was just wondering about that. I dont want to buy nps because i have no idea about the freeze rate for it. Anyway keep up the good work. You have good guides
A customer of mine was just frozen, but they didnt use proxies or anything so they lost quite a bit. You cant expect somebody who is new to all this to know from the getgo about proxies and the dangers of cheating on the same IP as ur main. Its necessary to have a guide that newbies and veterans can refer to in order to not lose their money
i always thought the (relatively) new "accept or decline" feature for item transfers was really obnoxious, but now i can see how it would come in handy. really nice guide, i'm sure i'll be using this a lot when i get into heavier abing.
The Accept or Deny system was implemented because, people could send hacked/scammed/Very hot AB items over to some stranger... and the innocent stranger would get frozen because NP'd just freeze everyone that came in touch with the item. This was very big back on Dupe Day; everyone sent everyone else a bunch of T-Tears and slingshots.... a bunch of people were just frozen for being in the line of fire. So, obnoxious or not... it does serve a purpose. But thanks to this guide... it serves one very good purpose. Very good, and than you.
Dude, you should like, get rid of the last part. I'm sure theres a snitch or two on this forum, or TNT watching x.x; They could change things up, so it won't work anymore. I really think that you should just find another way to get that out to people, a way that TNT could never hear about it =/
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Does anyone actually read that? I highly doubt it. And if there were TNT snitches/members in this forum, they wouldn't be blatantly obvious about it. On topic: This is a good guide and will hopefully serve the newbs out there and stop them from asking all of these question. I, myself, learned a thing or two from reading it. Good job. A much more complicated, but effective, method is having both the sender and recipient join the same guild. The sender could then set up a "1 NP auction", exchange a few neomails congratulating the "winner", and voila.
Very good guide. Especially the part from transferring the ABed item into another account after it's frozen. Thanks! +1
Lol, yea, i Reaaaaaaaaly doubt that anyone on this forum is a TNT snitch, I really doubt they would go that far out of their way to bust people, and if this were the case, EVERY user on this site would be banned immediately from neopets b/c ur IP is public on this site, so if there was a snitch, he could just report all of our IPs, and....that is not happening.
you fergot the PETPET transfer. buy a meo and equip it to an ugly unpainted pet with a horrible name and adopt him on your main!
Thats actually a really good idea... Cept not with a meo cuz those are inflated... Im gonna add that to my guide and quote u.